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13 July 2007 @ 01:38 pm
Need opinions from friends...  
Well, as you can see, I'm experimenting with a new layout.  I would like to have real honest opinions about it.  Also, I'm considering making myself a seperate icon journal away from greeneyedmissy.  I know a lot of graphic makers do this to display their stuff and I wouldn't have thought about it before, but it just seems like a good idea.  Again, I'd like opinions on this as well.  I really DON'T have to do it, it was just something I thought of.  Perhaps those with their seperate icon journals could give me their imput?  Do you like it?  Do you find it difficult or more work to post your stuff there, then repost on your personal journal?  Do you keep your personal journal personal, friends only?  Did you shift your friends to your graphics journal or keep there on your personal one?  Do you let people join your icon journal or friend them?

Geez, sorry for the million questions!  LOL!

Thanks, I'd appreciate anything any of you have to say. 
How I'm feeling: gigglygiggly
Heikeabyssinia on July 14th, 2007 08:38 am (UTC)
Hmm, i sure love your header but to be honest i have seen better ones on your journal before. I don´t know how to explain in english but let´s say i don´t like those "edgy" little pictures and the scribbles underneath. But the background of the page is awesome.
Well and i don´t really see a benefit in an extra icon journal. I don´t know why some people do both. Would be too much work for me.
Crazy Cheeky Girly Geek: blue butterfly ladygreeneyedmissy on July 14th, 2007 01:43 pm (UTC)
Thanks! I truly appreciate your opinion. Not crazy about the little pics and squiggly's huh? Umm...perhaps remove them and just take one picture, make it larger and blend it behind the big one? I might give it a shot. This is an older design that I pulled out of the closet, it could use some updating. ;) I'll play around and see what I get.
And yes, that's two votes for not bothering with the icon journal, I'm making notes, promise! ;)
Heikeabyssinia on July 14th, 2007 05:03 pm (UTC)
I see you changed bits of the header. I like it better now, i really do :)
May i ask you what layout you use ? Is it a custom made or a LJ standard ? I am trying forever to get a layout where my header has the same width as the rest of the side but i don´t know how to do that :( Unfortunately i have no clue about html or css
Crazy Cheeky Girly Geek: gerryinbluegreeneyedmissy on July 14th, 2007 11:07 pm (UTC)
Thanks, I believe I like the header better myself now too!
I used a combination of flexible squares and custom css for the layout. The sidebar is definitely flexible squares, I kept it that way and I just changed certain pieces and parts. I'm just learning CSS myself, having worked with HTML for many years. I looked at your layout and I see what you're saying about wanting your header to fit. There may be a way to adjust your layout's width, but it might make where you post rather narrow. Whichever you decide, I'd be glad to help you with it so you can get it the way you want.
Heike: Gerry xxxabyssinia on July 15th, 2007 07:24 am (UTC)
Last nite i tried to have the header as part of the background and shift the journal down like said in this tutorial http://community.livejournal.com/s2howto/51499.html but i didn´t work at all and the whole ting looked even worser....
Adjusting the journal width is probably the best way but i don´t know how so any help would be appreciated :)
Heikeabyssinia on July 15th, 2007 01:29 pm (UTC)
Me...again. Sorry to bother you with this but now i´m all confused. I played around with the layout a little bit. I figured out that i can see the site source code with Firefox and so i copied the codes for header and the main container and played around with it. Now the problem is that it looks absolutely fine when i´m logged in with Firefox. But i canged to the IE where i´m not logged in to my account and it´s all displaced again. The same when i log out with Firefox...Any idea ?
Heikeabyssinia on July 15th, 2007 07:56 am (UTC)
One more thing i missed to say. The most obvious way to have the journal the same size as the header would probably be to make the header the same size as the journal. But no. I tried to but (how do i say that in english..?) it´s more on the right side than on the left (any sense ?)It´s displaced
Crazy Cheeky Girly Geek: enthustoongreeneyedmissy on July 15th, 2007 02:27 pm (UTC)
Okay, I viewed your source code and while its laid out differently than mine, I think I know what you need to do to fix it, or at least try.
Here is what you have now for your content and left and right bar---

#container{position:absolute; top: 300px;margin-top: 45px; width: 97%;}
#leftbar{ position:absolute; top: 10px; left: 10px; width: 170px;}
#rightbar{ position:absolute; top: 10px; right: 0px; width: 170px;}


If you want your content and sidebars centered back again where they should be, the best thing to do is change the positions from absolute to relative and remove the margin positions, like this:

#leftbar{ position:relative;}
#rightbar{ position:relative;}


I hope this works for you. You can also just eliminate them all together and it will return to your layout's default. After all, you need to only add additional CSS to what you want to completely change, nothing else.

And a little note as well...if you want to view the source code of anyone's journal, you can right click and go to view source, even in IE. And I don't recommend modifying for just Firefox. IE and Firefox don't exactly get along.

Email me privately at emeraldyeyedmissy@aol.com and if you want to change your layout around, I'll help you with it. ;)
Heikeabyssinia on July 15th, 2007 03:46 pm (UTC)
I wrote this to your email addy but i came back with "mailbox not found"

Hi there,

thanks a lot for your help. But it did not really work with your codes. All the sidebars were on the buttom of the page and parts of the header were hidden behind the main container.
I returned to the code i figured out by myself
#container{position:absolute; top: 300px;margin-top: 45px; width: 90%;}
#header { position:absolute; width: 100%; top: 55px; left: -58px; height: 300px;
As i said, it looks fine when i´m logged in but not if i´m logged out. And in IE the header is 2 or 3 larger than the container.
You said you don´t recommend changing it for Firefox only. But how can i change it for both ??
And another strange thing is: i changed the codes as said above but when i look for the source in Firefox there´s still the old one.
Maybe it´s too hot today but i don´t understand a thing anymore.
Have a nice sunday anyway

Crazy Cheeky Girly Geek: gerryinbluegreeneyedmissy on July 15th, 2007 07:02 pm (UTC)
Of course it came back "mailbox not found" because I'm STUPID! Ugh, I typed in the wrong email. Its
emeraldeyedmissy@aol.com . I put in an extra y on the other one. God, figures.
And about the firefox thing. I've never dealt with it before, so I don't know to make it work on both, just on IE.
ღ spooky.angel ღ: gerry n&bspooky_window on July 14th, 2007 09:08 pm (UTC)
i really LOVE the new layout, and the header !!
but actually i cant help you for the icons journal, i have ONLY a graphic journal lol
but do you really think it's necessary ? not too much work ?
Crazy Cheeky Girly Geek: GEM leaf reflectiongreeneyedmissy on July 14th, 2007 10:50 pm (UTC)
I think the more I study on it, the more I realize that it would be more work than I want to deal with. After all, I post my stuff here, then I also have to load them up on bellenoiresdomain.net AND the non-gerry to greeneyedmissy.net. That would be adding an additional step, although it would be simply making an additional post, but still, not sure I want to do that right now.
And thanks for your opinion, I appreciate it. I'm still tweeking colors here and there cuz its mostly on CSS now...ugh...and I'm not used to it as much as I was used to HTML. I'll get there eventually. ;)
alatariel10alatariel10 on July 14th, 2007 10:20 pm (UTC)
I like the new layout. :D

I don't do graphics (hehe) but from what I've seen, most people who have two (one personal and one graphics) usually just set up a community and allow others to join but restrict posting access to just themselves. Personally, I'd rather see you just keep it all in one place. Hope that helps. ;)
Crazy Cheeky Girly Geek: gerryinbluegreeneyedmissy on July 14th, 2007 11:10 pm (UTC)
Yes, that's what I want to do. I actually already have the community set up and ready, but was simply debating on whether to start moving everything over there. At this point, I don't know as I will since I feel pretty established here. If I want another personal journal, a non fandom type one, I have an old one from way back that I can always dust off and re-use. In the long run, I think its much more simple that way.
I appreciate your opinion, everyone's input has been so helpful. ;)